Generation Skip — Site Location

The first step in creating this utopian construct is finding a location site for the birth of Generation Skip.   Before I get into this topic, I want to point out that Generation Skip isn’t the name of this utopian construct, rather, this term merely signifies a break from the wheel or treadmill that generation upon generation has been subjected to for far too long.  Selecting a location site for this utopian foundation should not be underestimated.  If we look back in time, it is clear that the geological features surrounding a culture had huge implications and impacts on the beings that dwelled there.  The features, the resources, the fauna, the temperatures, the seasons, all impacted the development of the culture.  The surrounding land and water features, climate, plants and animals, seeped into their very being. 

The location site could be anywhere in the world but we must ensure that the following minimum criteria is achieved.  First, the site must be relatively isolated from the current human world.  Second, the location must be well protected by the existing society outside the perimeter which would act as a sort of guardian, nanny, or distant mother.  Third, the site must have fertile land and resources which can enable the culture to become self-sufficient over time.  Fourth, the location should be surrounded by abundant and bountiful nature, beauty — unspoiled.  We could put these sprouts in the middle of a desert or an arctic icescape, which would be interesting, but why not pick a site with fresh rivers, forests, mountains, ocean, and or fertile plains?  Why not place them among the noble wild beasts, the Orca, the bear, the eagle, the hawk, the wolf, or the tiger, the crocodile, the python, and the leopard?  Such unspoiled places do still exist.

We mustn’t get hung up on one site, for I envision many utopian constructs developing all over the world in a wide variety of geographic landscapes and fauna.  We want variety, differentiation, experimentation, and variation.  We do not want one singular solution, but we do want environments and locations that meet the basic criteria outlined above.  And we most certainly want open frameworks that free these upstart human utopias from the wheel.   What is that?  Did you say “utopias” as opposed to just utopia?  Yes, I did.  Do you foresee potential conflicts, disagreements, war, between these various experimental utopias?  Do you foresee potential conflicts, disagreements, war, between these various utopian constructs and the status quo societies – us?  I will be interested to see how these new upstart cultures deal with such tension between themselves and with the cultures that surround them at large after they have been enlightened to man’s history.   

I have offered some images in this post and I would love to have a vote if we had to choose just one site, but I am afraid we don’t have enough visitors to make it interesting.  As such, I enjoy contemplating multiple utopian site locations as well as multiple utopian solutions and visions sprouting up from these virgin, unspoiled, free territories.  The potential, the imagination, is wide open, limitless, and open to be defined.  The next post will briefly discuss the temporary infrastructure to support these new upstart communities.

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23 thoughts on “Generation Skip — Site Location

  1. I vote for the site location to be in your head, since that’s the only place it’s going to happen anyway. 🙂 Nice photos though . . .

    • LOL…I would vote to pick a younger and clearer head than mine to put the site location. Yes, surely as the the sun is to rise and set so will man continue on the daily grind, pounding away, plodding along, running around in circles. I guess it makes perfect sense. Most bodies in the universe are circular in nature and spinning around. Man must be very dizzy and confused.

    • LOL…no my dear. Here is my proposal. Offer a picture for the foundation of your Utopia…the landscape unspoiled. Then, put yourself there naked or clothed what ever your preference that fits your ideal for the beginning. I only ask that you have three beautiful long silver swords in your possession. Then, you toss the swords on the ground and say…ok Tincup, Vampire Weather, and Dragonstrand, earn your right to mate with me.

      • But this denies Mademoiselle Fontaines free will in the matter, and implies that brute force is the measure of earning such a privilege. What if her heart lies with the loser?

        Tell you what: You and VW can engage in this gratuitous act of Machismo, while Lady Fountains and I set up lounge chairs, crack open Coronas, and watch the comedy unfolding as we exchange and discuss our favorite Nietzsche quotes.

        Touche!

      • 😀

        You are correct. I have imposed my vision upon her. Maybe she would want all three…or none…or two of the three…or one. Perhaps she would prefer a poetry competition, a philosophical debate, a musical challenge, or a combination of all including the sword fight. Who knows what she would define as the rite of passage…excluding the sword fight, I am afraid I would be at a disadvantage…unless of course she were to factor beauty and love technique into the equation 😀

  2. I was actually a martial artist before a knee injury, so you’d all be at a disadvantage with a sword fight. 😉 I propose a poker match accompanied by Jack and coke. Whosoever beats me gets my utopia and myself, for they will have undoubtedly earned it, as well as my heart. 😛

    • Dragon and I grew up playing some poker…my grandfather loved cards. Can we bring stogies? Also…we need a little insight into your utopia…we have no pictures or foundation to go on here. I also find it interesting that you include yourself in the competition…very interesting…so what happens if you slay all three…your Utopia simply ends when you end?

      • Stogies, of course. And I cannot ask others to do something I am not willing to do, right? If I slay all three I take my utopia elsewhere and continue my everlasting quest for a worthy component, and you’re left longing for the best game you’ve ever played. 😛

        I cannot describe my utopia, I’m afraid. There are no words for it, and to push for some would be to cheapen it.

      • Now you are talking. I love it. To talk about utopia is to cheapen a vision or a potential vision from what we see before us today. I agree. I have started down a road that I must finish. I am the fool, out in the open to be blasted, but it will eventually be done, and I can leave it behind, and return to reality, folding laundry, delivering packages, finding places for old people to die, just to keep my head above water. And let me say the great thinkers, artists, musicians, poets…they can also go back to reality and do whatever they need to do to keep their heads above water. And then we can expand and say the rest of humanity can go back to what they need to do to keep their heads above water. And suddenly, all we are doing is trying to keep our heads above water. And once in a blue moon, we can find a piece of beauty, a sliver, a scrap, of something worthy, of something higher, a thought, a view, a feeling, but only a glimpse, a wink of an eye, and then….back to reality…back to what is…back to the wheel.

        Let me add to this rant. The intellectual, the individual discerning and sensitive in thought, the great mind, is capable of great criticism and objective insight into what is, but how short they fall in a vision to remedy the situation. Indeed, lofty words, lofty ideals, are beautiful on paper. Carve your own niche, seek beauty and enlightenment on your own, become Buddha, Jesus, Socrates, Nietzche, Goethe, or one of the great independent intellectual thinkers. These lightning bolts are beautiful, but oh how they flash and thunder for only a moment. Give me Beethoven, probably the best example we have before us, and even he fades to the drum beats and rap of modern culture. Genius, carvings, niches, hermits, great thinkers, artists….they flash and fade…suffocated by the masses of human momentum and weight. I long for a more unified and enlightened wave, storm, wind, current, force, that listens to these beautiful flashes of brilliance and transforms and actually becomes part of the phenomenon no matter how small the part. For a wave, the wind, a hurricane, is made up of many small parts that make it a force to be reckoned with. Laugh all you want. Carve your niche and fantasy and keep it to yourself. You are wise and objective to do so for the rotting human flesh will soon be absorbed into dust and ashes, material to be used for the next variation, experiment, chaotic trial and error.

      • Intriguing “rant” my brother. However, if the individuals you have listed “flash and thunder for only a moment”, or “flash and fade”, then how is it that they are singed into your mind and you find their names still flickering around your tongue? 2000 plus years (in some of those cases) seems like an awfully long “flash and fade”.

        Every one of these individuals–every single one of them–had visions of a “better world” for the human being. To be sure these visions differed, but they all had them nonetheless and wanted them to become reality. You seem to be implying here that they were just snails who painted Sistine Ceilings on the roofs of their shells. This just simply isn’t true. They all wished for something better for humanity, and there is ample proof of this in their words and ways.

        Essentially every one of them said in different ways: “Look, I am living an existence that has the power to elevate, transform, and transfigure the world
        –why don’t you all join me in this place, and we can live a Life of Beauty, Power, Profundity, Significance, Divinity, et cetera”.

        They all wanted this–it doesn’t make you different that you want this too, that you “long for a more unified and enlightened wave, storm, wind, current, force”. However, if you don’t at the very least attain to what they attained to, then you are in danger of becoming a mere empty vessel of a “promised land”–something like an Obama who promises a “better world” on the outside but has no better world within himself. And what ended up happening with that? Certainly a “change” that no one can believe in.

        You are wrong–I doubt anyone who reads your blog is “laughing”. I know I’m not. More likely, they are weeping. But when you long for a Utopia, or even just a Higher Culture, the pitfall is that you make yourself dependent upon others to realize your vision. The problem with this is that human beings are so very far from being ideal.

        It’s the same old problem of the chasm between idea and reality. Right now in this very moment you and I are living in someone else’s Utopia–the world we live in, the world of “progress”, “industrialization”, “technology”, “Laissez-faire”, was supposed to be the “ideal world” that was going to solve all of our problems. Others advanced it as “Communism”, “Socialism”, et cetera. None of it has ever worked out. Why? Because the chasm between ideal and reality rears its hideous head. Human beings can’t live up to the ideas and visions of the visionaries.

        You, my friend, are just such a visionary. It therefore doesn’t behoove you to undermine the visionaries. We all have our roles to play in this world, no matter how comical or tragical. Play yours to the full. You are as extravagant and beautiful–and solitary–as Beethoven, or Socrates, or Jesus. So push your visions to the very limits, regardless of those who “laugh”–for they are blind. That is their role.

        At the same time, however, you can’t realistically expect others to embody your visions. You can want it, but you can’t expect it to become a reality. I’ll give you and example. I know a very intelligent and sensitive woman who I had a few drinks with one evening. She related to me how she horrified all of her friends and associates in the oh so progressive city I live in when she told them that she doesn’t recycle or engage in any of the prescribed “Green” behaviors. Her reason for not doing so? Because her Utopia, her “ideal world” is what we see depicted in negative futuristic Science Fiction books and movies–for example Blade Runner. That is what she wants the world to be. I can vouch that this woman is no idiot–she is profoundly intelligent.

        And I have to add, there is a part of me that agrees with her. As much as I despise the form of the world we live in, there are also some aspects of it that I find–liberating, and somehow profoundly perfect. For instance, the experience of absolute anonymity and loneliness as I survey at night from a skyscraper the utter chaotic jungle of a modern Metropolis–an experience that would likely not exist in the Utopia you envision and advance.

        And if you consider the matter, there are those in your Generation Skip pool who will rebel against your vision of Utopia. They will be told again and again that they are the “Chosen Ones”, but they will inevitably hear the stories about the “Outer World” that is forbidden to them. And as always, what is forbidden soon becomes what is exotic . . . and desired. They will hear tales of towering Metropolises full of millions of people, bustling with every expression of manifold, grotesque, bizarre existence–and they will want to experience it. And then what? Will you appear before them like Moses before the Jews when they were worshipping the Golden Calf, hurling your tablets down upon their wanton heads?

        Life is a Dance, my Brother–you must dance yours, I mine, and others, theirs. I guess it’s part of Life that not everyone dances the same steps. We do Dance on though.

        ~DS~

      • Thank you for your comments brother. I have added mine below marked by $$$. I leave it to you if you want to go another round, or we could wait till our next meeting when we have a few bottles of wine and food in our bellies. I know you have other work to do and I don’t want to detract from those efforts…but as always, more than welcome your insights.

        Intriguing “rant” my brother. However, if the individuals you have listed “flash and thunder for only a moment”, or “flash and fade”, then how is it that they are singed into your mind and you find their names still flickering around your tongue? 2000 plus years (in some of those cases) seems like an awfully long “flash and fade”.

        $$$ I am grateful for these individual treasures and you make a valid point that their ideas and works still exist and are made available to us even today. My point here is that how many of the 7 billion people on the planet have actually read these works, understood them, and now live their lives in accordance with those teachings or embraced certain aspects of those thoughts? How many people were receptive and listened to the ideas and teachings of these treasures in the era in which they were actually alive in the flesh? Two of these treasures were put to death and many more treasures were arrested, persecuted, cast out, or simply ignored, as they are largely today. $$$

        Every one of these individuals–every single one of them–had visions of a “better world” for the human being. To be sure these visions differed, but they all had them nonetheless and wanted them to become reality. You seem to be implying here that they were just snails who painted Sistine Ceilings on the roofs of their shells. This just simply isn’t true. They all wished for something better for humanity, and there is ample proof of this in their words and ways.

        $$$ I love this paragraph…”snails who painted Sistine Ceilings on the roofs of their shells”…you have a way with words my dear brother…and I laughed quite loud and long after reading this phrase. Now, just as the idea of this Utopian framework will only live in my head, so it seems to be true that most of the ideas in these great mens’ heads that were transformed to paper remained there — either in their own heads or on the paper. Certainly they had their following, but eventually their following either corrupted those ideas or quite simply faded away with time. Even the frozen paint and images on the Sistine Ceiling are fading. The mass majority of humankind has never seen the Sistine Ceiling, or picked up and read the treasures locked in stone books. Only Beethoven’s creations ring out for all to hear, but even in this case, the vast majority of beings are deaf to his tones.$$$

        Essentially every one of them said in different ways: “Look, I am living an existence that has the power to elevate, transform, and transfigure the world
        –why don’t you all join me in this place, and we can live a Life of Beauty, Power, Profundity, Significance, Divinity, et cetera”.

        $$$ Now we get closer to the point I want to make; although these individuals were geniuses or extraordinary, they met with great resistance and even opposition. The public, those in charge, were not supple enough to listen and accept these gifts. These men offered up a flame to warm the ocean only to be extinguished on contact. $$$

        They all wanted this–it doesn’t make you different that you want this too, that you “long for a more unified and enlightened wave, storm, wind, current, force”. However, if you don’t at the very least attain to what they attained to, then you are in danger of becoming a mere empty vessel of a “promised land”–something like an Obama who promises a “better world” on the outside but has no better world within himself. And what ended up happening with that? Certainly a “change” that no one can believe in.

        $$$ Another brilliant paragraph and you have highlighted the key difference between my primary objective in this project and the objectives of these extraordinary enlightened men. Where as Jesus said I know the way and follow me to greater heights, I on the other hand have no conception of the way. I am merely trying to create a framework where the beings in that community are more supple, open, and receptive to the genius and thereby will not be as likely to bury the extraordinary treasure. I am not standing on top of the hill holding stone tablets dictating the way to heaven; I am merely attempting to free these beings from the wheel and giving them an opportunity to become sensitive, discerning, supple, and open populace. I am trying to enable the populace to embrace a man like Jesus, Socrates, Nietzsche, and Beethoven. In fact, my hope is that they would celebrate the arrival of such beings and thought, as opposed to the opposite which has occurred over and over again through time. My hope is that some of that thought actually gets put into practice, into action, into being – not locked away in a book, painting, or sculpture for mere reading or viewing pleasure. $$$

        You are wrong–I doubt anyone who reads your blog is “laughing”. I know I’m not. More likely, they are weeping. But when you long for a Utopia, or even just a Higher Culture, the pitfall is that you make yourself dependent upon others to realize your vision. The problem with this is that human beings are so very far from being ideal.

        $$$ This is true. The concept will remain in my head and on this blog. $$$

        It’s the same old problem of the chasm between idea and reality. Right now in this very moment you and I are living in someone else’s Utopia–the world we live in, the world of “progress”, “industrialization”, “technology”, “Laissez-faire”, was supposed to be the “ideal world” that was going to solve all of our problems. Others advanced it as “Communism”, “Socialism”, et cetera. None of it has ever worked out. Why? Because the chasm between ideal and reality rears its hideous head. Human beings can’t live up to the ideas and visions of the visionaries.

        $$$ Another brilliant point and subject to more contemplation. Indeed, there are many people who love the status quo and are in fact living the vision of capitalism and enjoying great riches and a sense of financial freedom. In essence, there is no chasm between the idea and the reality. And if the populace and humanity enjoys this vision and has bought into the sustainability and purpose, then it will endure. It is important to point out that these utopian constructs do not negate what currently exists. Participating in this utopian framework isn’t mandatory. I am not destroying what currently exists, but I am asking what currently exists to support the start-up of this utopian construct in the short-term. And I think in the past we can find examples where great numbers of people did live up to the ideas of visionaries resulting in cultural peaks. Of course, these peaks were temporary and evolved into valleys or in fact, deep chasms. I am trying to construct a framework where there is at least the potential or opportunity for a steady and enduring ascent generation after generation. Such a concept assumes the populace will continually, as a whole, move in an upward direction, led and nurtured by the great men and woman to arise as leaders in both thought and action. If I observe the world before me now, I don’t see any opportunity for such a concept to take hold. I see 7 billion people running around in circles with no attempt at a short and long-term climb to better and higher places. In fact, you have touched on THE primary purpose of this utopian framework. The primary concept is develop a populace that is supple, open, humble enough to in fact live up to great visions. For it is the great vision and visions that are clearly lacking today. The vision before us today is what can I do in this world to ensure I get what ever I can and get whatever I can for my family. Not far off from the idea that we should merely seek our own niche…find our own fulfillment and enlightenment…find my own cove of solitude and beauty…..fuck everyone else…what can I acheive. $$$

        You, my friend, are just such a visionary. It therefore doesn’t behoove you to undermine the visionaries. We all have our roles to play in this world, no matter how comical or tragical. Play yours to the full. You are as extravagant and beautiful–and solitary–as Beethoven, or Socrates, or Jesus. So push your visions to the very limits, regardless of those who “laugh”–for they are blind. That is their role.

        $$$ I have a partially developed brain for intellect and a partially developed brain for action, resulting in a botched confused experiment. I feel vulnerable expressing my thoughts on this Utopian framework. I will no longer worry about being laughed at. $$$

        At the same time, however, you can’t realistically expect others to embody your visions. You can want it, but you can’t expect it to become a reality. I’ll give you and example. I know a very intelligent and sensitive woman who I had a few drinks with one evening. She related to me how she horrified all of her friends and associates in the oh so progressive city I live in when she told them that she doesn’t recycle or engage in any of the prescribed “Green” behaviors. Her reason for not doing so? Because her Utopia, her “ideal world” is what we see depicted in negative futuristic Science Fiction books and movies–for example Blade Runner. That is what she wants the world to be. I can vouch that this woman is no idiot–she is profoundly intelligent.

        $$$ She is indeed no idiot and her utopian vision certainly has a higher probability of coming to fruition than my framework for a utopian vision to emerge from those living within that open and freeing framework. $$$

        And I have to add, there is a part of me that agrees with her. As much as I despise the form of the world we live in, there are also some aspects of it that I find–liberating, and somehow profoundly perfect. For instance, the experience of absolute anonymity and loneliness as I survey at night from a skyscraper the utter chaotic jungle of a modern Metropolis–an experience that would likely not exist in the Utopia you envision and advance.

        $$$ I too find moments of fulfillment, happiness, depth, in our current construct or status quo. Again, one must contemplate is this current construct really that bad? Have I in fact blown the problems out of proportion? Are my own struggles and failures blinding me to the opportunities that exist before me? $$$

        And if you consider the matter, there are those in your Generation Skip pool who will rebel against your vision of Utopia. They will be told again and again that they are the “Chosen Ones”, but they will inevitably hear the stories about the “Outer World” that is forbidden to them. And as always, what is forbidden soon becomes what is exotic . . . and desired. They will hear tales of towering Metropolises full of millions of people, bustling with every expression of manifold, grotesque, bizarre existence–and they will want to experience it. And then what? Will you appear before them like Moses before the Jews when they were worshipping the Golden Calf, hurling your tablets down upon their wanton heads?

        $$$ I had thought about this situation. Wouldn’t that be something if they decided to all leave this utopian construct in favor of what exists in the outer-world? This option would be completely available to them. And, it would oppose and fly in the face of my view that what exists is not the way.$$$

        Life is a Dance, my Brother–you must dance yours, I mine, and others, theirs. I guess it’s part of Life that not everyone dances the same steps. We do Dance on though.

        $$$ I agree individuals must have the freedom to dance as their soul instructs. I am merely providing a framework that hopes these participants will dance more often, and that men like Jesus, Socrates, and Nietzsche dance along with them. $$$

    • They would be amazing if they were my own images. Don’t feel the need to stop by here, but I will be visiting your site frequently. I have much admiration for poets, especially poets like yourself that believe in speaking in a language and imagery that isn’t disguised or hidden amongst flowery language and mazes. I don’t know if you have read anything by Robinson Jeffers…but he is a poet that I connect with on many levels.

      • “flowery language and mazes”? That sounds like the very definition of Poetry itself . . .

      • This is my favourite of his; thanks for the kind words 😊

        A Little Scraping by Robinson Jeffers

        True, the time, to one who does not love farce,
        And if misery must be prefers it nobler, shows apparent vices;
        At least it provides the cure for ambition.
        One does not crave power in ant-hills, nor praise in a paper forest;
        One must not even indulge the severe
        Romance of separateness, as of Milton grown blind and old
        In his broken temple against the drunkards:
        The ants are good creatures, there is nothing to be heroic about.
        But the time is not a strong prison either.
        A little scraping the walls of dishonest contractor’s concrete
        Through a shower of chips and sand makes freedom.
        Shake the dust from your hair. This mountain sea-coast is real,
        For it reaches out far into past and future;
        It is part of the great and timeless excellence of things. A few
        Lean cows drift high up the bronze hill;
        The heavy-necked plow-team furrows the foreland, gulls tread the furrow;
        Time ebbs and flows but the rock remains.
        Two riders of tired horses canter on the cloudy ridge;
        Topaz-eyed hawks have the white air;
        Or a woman with jade-pale eyes, hiding a knife in her hand,
        Goes through cold rain over gray grass.
        God is here, too, secretly smiling, the beautiful power
        That piles up cities for the poem of their fall
        And gathers multitude like game to be hunted when the season comes.

        Stop by anytime, you’re always welcome! 🍀

  3. Between the idea andd the reality, between the motion and the act, falls the shadow. – T.S. Eliot

    Tincup and Dragonstrand, you both have alternately stolen the ideas from my mind and the words from my fingertips in this discussion. You both are quickly becoming two of my favorite people.

    • Now you know how some of our discussions go at the diner table…after a few bottles of wine…it can get pretty wild and crazy. I see lots of distant shadows…and not much action.

      • I have a fondnesd in my heart for shadows, and would be forever grateful to have someone in my family with which to be so philosophical.

      • I am grateful…I just wish I was the one that had the intellectual advantage…oh well, just have to settle for my beauty and golf game 😀

        ..

      • Those are “money” replies, my brother 😉 Certainly we could go several more rounds here, but yes, let’s take this to the Table, where the only thing flowing more freely than the ideas will be the wine.

        Fountains, you are cordially invited to join us.

      • “beauty and golf game”? ~sniggering~

        Looks like it’s time for another trip to Bandon Dunes, where they will both take a beating–one from the wind, and the other from the wings.

        You better work on that miscarried intellect of yours, because it may be the only thing left standing when I get through with you . . .

  4. Are you two really brothers? LOL Agree, disagree, in the middle. Just call me neutral except that yes, TC you are a visionary. But then, aren’t we all? “Where hell hath not yet frozen over, lies great hope.” ~ (c) JAuroraMorealist Dec 4 2011

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